Comments on: Climate Change Scientists, Critical Thinkers? http://www.matthew-long.com/2007/04/20/climate-change-scientists-critical-thinkers/ Matt Long's Blog About Programming and Stuff Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:33:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: perlmunger http://www.matthew-long.com/2007/04/20/climate-change-scientists-critical-thinkers/#comment-1084 perlmunger Fri, 20 Apr 2007 22:17:52 +0000 http://www.matthew-long.com/2007/04/20/climate-change-scientists-critical-thinkers/#comment-1084 Just found this as I was looking around for documentaries on climate change: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&q=global+warming+swindle Says that CO2 is affected by temperature--not the other way around. Probably biased, but what isn't? Just found this as I was looking around for documentaries on climate change: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&q=global+warming+swindle

Says that CO2 is affected by temperature–not the other way around.

Probably biased, but what isn’t?

]]> By: perlmunger http://www.matthew-long.com/2007/04/20/climate-change-scientists-critical-thinkers/#comment-1083 perlmunger Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:37:13 +0000 http://www.matthew-long.com/2007/04/20/climate-change-scientists-critical-thinkers/#comment-1083 I started at Wikipedia myself, but for the same reasons went and found the actual references it cites. Probably the safest (i.e. most reputable) way. The issue still remains for me that saying "90% sure" is like saying "mostly sure". There's a lot hanging on "mostly sure". I need numbers and I only need them on the part where they're (the working group) claiming that people did it. ;-) Thanks for the feedback. I've of course heard of Al Gore's film, but haven't watched it yet. I started at Wikipedia myself, but for the same reasons went and found the actual references it cites. Probably the safest (i.e. most reputable) way. The issue still remains for me that saying “90% sure” is like saying “mostly sure”. There’s a lot hanging on “mostly sure”. I need numbers and I only need them on the part where they’re (the working group) claiming that people did it. ;-)

Thanks for the feedback. I’ve of course heard of Al Gore’s film, but haven’t watched it yet.

]]> By: Kjartan http://www.matthew-long.com/2007/04/20/climate-change-scientists-critical-thinkers/#comment-1082 Kjartan Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:02:07 +0000 http://www.matthew-long.com/2007/04/20/climate-change-scientists-critical-thinkers/#comment-1082 You should start by watching "An Inconvenient Truth" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0497116/ it explains some of the reasoning behind these predictions and theories. I know it is biased but still that does not make it untrue. The basis for these theories is amongst other things research that has been done on ice-cores drilled from the ice on Greenland. When the snow falls it traps particles of the atmosphere in the ice and by studying these cores it is possible to see approxemately the average temperature and how much carbon dioxide (and other gases as well) the year the snow fell. These readings show how the average temperature was rather constant for a few thousand years untill the 1800's You should read these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming wikipedia articles as well, they describe these matters as well. You should start by watching “An Inconvenient Truth” http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0497116/ it explains some of the reasoning behind these predictions and theories. I know it is biased but still that does not make it untrue.

The basis for these theories is amongst other things research that has been done on ice-cores drilled from the ice on Greenland. When the snow falls it traps particles of the atmosphere in the ice and by studying these cores it is possible to see approxemately the average temperature and how much carbon dioxide (and other gases as well) the year the snow fell. These readings show how the average temperature was rather constant for a few thousand years untill the 1800’s

You should read these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming wikipedia articles as well, they describe these matters as well.

]]> By: Kjartan http://www.matthew-long.com/2007/04/20/climate-change-scientists-critical-thinkers/#comment-1081 Kjartan Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:52:35 +0000 http://www.matthew-long.com/2007/04/20/climate-change-scientists-critical-thinkers/#comment-1081 Maybe you should watch "An Inconvenient Truth" I highly recommend it, of course it is biased but, and this you can get confirmed elsewhere if you like, there you can see what these theories are based on. There has been done research on excavated ice cores that can tell very accurately how the climate was when the snow that made the ice fell to earth, the ice traps parts of the atmosphere and it is possible to calculate the average temperature the year the snow fell. These ice cores show the climate changes for about 600.000 years back (yes that is supposed to be six-hundred-thousand) and this data is what these models are based on Also you should read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming these wikipedia articles explain these issues pretty well. Before you say so I know wikipedia articles can be inaccurate, but still there is usually a grain of truth in them and for the most part I think they are rather good. Maybe you should watch “An Inconvenient Truth” I highly recommend it, of course it is biased but, and this you can get confirmed elsewhere if you like, there you can see what these theories are based on.

There has been done research on excavated ice cores that can tell very accurately how the climate was when the snow that made the ice fell to earth, the ice traps parts of the atmosphere and it is possible to calculate the average temperature the year the snow fell.

These ice cores show the climate changes for about 600.000 years back (yes that is supposed to be six-hundred-thousand) and this data is what these models are based on

Also you should read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming these wikipedia articles explain these issues pretty well. Before you say so I know wikipedia articles can be inaccurate, but still there is usually a grain of truth in them and for the most part I think they are rather good.

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